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"AngelaMotorman on "Moving with cats"" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-11-13 12:06:18

Hello all,I was wondering if I could get some advice on moving long distances with kitties. In a week I will be moving 12 hours away and I have two cats that will be coming along with me. They each will have their own carrier and be in the backseat of my car. My main questions are:Should I put food and water in their crates or feed them during rest stops?How do I handle the litterbox situation?Is there anything at all I can do to reduce stress on them? Agreed. I'd take up any food about 3 hours before departure and take up water about 1 hour before departure. Newspaper and/or towels in the carrier will be good. Keep a couple extra towels handy in case the others get soiled. If you offer anything at rest stops just offer water. Hold off on food until you get to your destination. When you reach your new home. I strongly advise keeping the cats (with food water & litter) closed in your bedroom for the first day or two. After they seem to be comfortable there you can let them explore the rest of your home. If you believe your cats will be seriously stressed by the travel you can discuss your options with your vet. Some will give you sedatives to give to your cats an hour before departure. However it's not necessary for most cats. Also you could try this week (yes you're busy and have lots of things to do) to take the cats in their carriers on a couple of quick errands. I'd also leave the carriers out with their doors open this week so the cats don't freak out by their appearance. I have found that the "puppy pads" usually cost more than the human kind. I used to buy the "chucks" at a locale pharmacy that sold home nursing supplies and could get a package for a lot less than the puppy pads. I used to use them in the birthing kennel when I bred cats. They were great cheap and easily to "chuck and replace." I think it is also important to put an article of old clothing or a blanket that they used in the kennel for familiar smells and comfort. Yes try the pee pee training pads for dogs pouncer. Offer them water when you stop but I doubt they'll be feeling like eating while on the trip. Do they have a favorite toy blanket or something you can put in the carrier with them to make them feel more secure?I agree with Anncetera - take some practice trips with them to make them more comfortable with going in the car - and to make them realize they are not going to the vet!I also seem to remember reading somewhere that(sort of like with a bird) you can cover their carriers with a blanket or towel and it will calm them down. I'm not sure of that one maybe Anncetera or Artistabobbi will know?Good luck with the move! Thank you for all the advice! I set the carriers out in the living room today for them to get used to. I had an old bath mat in the laundry room that they like to lay on and watch me as I fold clothes so I cut pieces off of that and put in each carrier. My boy cat got in each carrier sat down for a minute and then went back out. My girl cat sniffed and poked her head in but didn't go in. Tomorrow I think I will try to take them for a drive around the neighborhood and see how they do. I will also look into the puppy pads/chuck pads at the store next time I'm out. Thanks! pouncer--just remember to make sure that the car doors are shut and the windows are up when you stop and give them water attention or whatever. I will never forget the time my family was at a rest stop and the people in another car were looking for their cat. They were moving long distance and decided to give their cat some water during the trip. Still being afraid the cat darted out of their car and they had been looking for hours. I still wonder if they found that poor cat. . FondaHonda. I'm so sorry to hear that! But yes. I completely agree; no water or attention unless all the car doors and windows are such that the cats can't escape. My brothers and I were once traveling back to Omaha from Chicago and we stopped at a rest area only 80 miles from home. I had June my cat on my lap when my brothers realized the hood liner of the car was on fire. I had to dash about 100 yards away with June clutched tightly in my arms. She didn't escape and I didn't hurt her. But I would much rather have been running with her in the carrier for that little adventure! GreatDane the hood liner had oil spattered on it from a long-term leak in the engine. That oil is what caught fire once it got hot enough. As long as the car was moving it remained cool enough and deprived enough of oxygen to not catch fire. But after 7 hours straight driving at about 65 mph it was hot enough to catch fire once the vehicle stopped. They put it out right away but it was a few tense minutes. The worst part was feeling so torn; wanting to go back and help them put out the fire being scared the car would blow up and being scared I'd lose the cat. So I did what seemed best at the time; grab the cat and get the hell out of the way. Just a side note: My family was traveling the cat got out of the carrier and diappeared when my brother opened the door in the back seat. We searched the woods combing the side of the road and drove slowly home absolutely heartsick. Until Taffy climbed out from under my father's seat looking smug. We must have checked under the seats 20 times but the little wretch hid himself well. This has worked well for both my cat and my parent's cat: to help keep them calm during the trip put the carrier in the backseat have the opening of the carrier facing you and cover the entire rest of the carrier with a blanket. It really seems to minimize the crying and fright when they can focus on you instead of all of the stuff "moving" outside of the car! I've read in a couple different places that cats feel safer inside a dark confined space. Oh and don't forget to set out the carriers with the doors open a couple of days before the move! this will help them become acclimated to the carrier! We did that for my kitty and he decided he liked sleeping in his carrier over sleeping on my bed!!! One more tip. Go to Petsmart and get tags made with your cell number on them. Make sure kitties have their collars on during the whole trip. I frequently travel with Thierry Henry and he prefers the carrier covered except for the door. With him. I leave the door open so he can occasionally peek out. When it is time for a stop the door is firmly locked before any car windows or doors are opened. I'm able to travel with Molly's carrier on the passenger seat with its mesh zippered door facing me partly upzipped. When she cries. I can slip my hand into the carrier and let her play with my fingers a few seconds. That's usually good for another 50 miles or so. I repeat as needed and she has traveled quite a bit now. (I also keep her carrier open on the floor in the living room and it has become a favored napping place.) Fortunately. I've never had to travel more than 300 miles at one time don't know how this would work on longer trips. I'm late to this thread but very glad to see it as I'm about to move 7 cats in two shifts over an 8-hour drive. The first group will be the Lost Boys all yearling neutered males who have twice-daily rampages even when they're at home so this could be no fun at all. But they identify as a tribe and they'll be together. I'm using a large dog crate (which has on occasion been home to as many as five recuperating ferals at a time) although pack leader Spike has decided the pet taxi I left open in the living room is his new favorite cave so maybe I'll use that too. None of these guys has ever traveled farther than the vet before. The second shift will be the three older kitties who have traveled extensively -- Trouble at age 16 has lived in four states. Unfortunately. Trouble yowls for HOURS -- two moves ago we made the mistake of stopping overnight at a pet-friendly motel and during dinner were mortified to realize that everyone in the restaurant was discussing her constant crying. It'll all be worth it when they meet up again in a new house that even has stairs for the Lost Boys to race up and down. And just wait till they figure out we'll have a safe yard for them to go out in! But in the meantime. I'm taking along heavy-duty earplugs. Good luck with moving the kitties when I moved last year. I only drove 75 miles with 4 fuzzbutts. You would have thought I was killing them by the yowling throughout the drive. Good thing that I drive with the a/c on all the time otherwise someone would have called animal control for sure. But they made it all safe and sound only one mess along the way but it was expected. AZDEBRA,I'm going home to Columbus where my tribe lives: comfest com. This is also where the wonderful CatWelfare folks have been doing it right since before I can remember. TN is beautiful but I will not miss the completely overwhelming feral cat crisis in east TN. I took one of the last feral females in our neighborhood to be spayed this morning at a low-cost clinic (Wally's Friends) that just opened last year and there was a line far out the door before 8 am. They've done almost 6,000 pets and ferals in one year but the area is still waiting on its first no-kill shelter to be built. I've had rescuers here beg me to take some ferals to Ohio with me and I wish I could -- but I have to take my own 7 guys (four of whom were ferals caught this year). I have never seen anything like the cat overpopulation here. Speaking of which: anybody here live in Chattanooga? My neighbor is willing to trap and feed and pay for neuters but can't transport the cats back and forth to the vet. Write me offlist at mediacenter(at)ix netcom com if you can help. In any case wish me luck in catching the last two momcats before I leave next week! They're exceptionally shy which is why they managed to have the litters that included Susu the gorgeous calico I took in today. Susu and her brotherTwinkie (yes he looks like one) are breaking my heart. They're very adoptable...

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"Lodging" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-17 15:18:43

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"Lodging" posted by ~Ray
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"North Port Sun" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-17 14:32:01

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"Grand Canyon - a Trip You Have to Take" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-06 08:21:08

<P>Every American (authorise every human for that matter) owes it to him/herself to continue to Arizona and visit the Grand Canyon at least once in their lifetimes. Its truly amazing to see how a little course of water eventually turned into the Colorado River which eventually carved out the Grand Canyon.<P>You can come your move to the Grand Canyon in a couple different ways. One way is to be within the lay at one of the lodges on the South Rim and act time to undergo all the different things the park has to offer. The other way is to stay in one of the surrounding Arizona towns and take a day move to the Grand Canyon for a “hit and run” view of the Canyon. Both have their plusses.<P>The move of the Grand Canyon The South Rim is the part of the Grand Canyon most populate are familiar with. It sits on the Arizona side and can be accessed all year go. The North Rim is closed from mid-October to mid-May and is not as visited as the South Rim.<P>The benefit of staying within the lay is the ability to take your time to view the magnificent Canyon from different viewing points which you can find by walking the rim dawdle or taking a shuttle from point to inform. For those of you staying for several days a move to the Northern Rim of the Grand Canyon would be a lovely addition though the control is about 4 - 5 hours desire. For those not wanting to drive there is a shuttle which provides rim to rim function from mid-May to Mid-October. For those staying on the South Rim there are numerous trails drink the canyon as well as a dawdle along the top of the Canyon called the “Rim Trail.” If youre staying in one of the lodges and are planning a day bring up into the inner Canyon just be aware that you probably cannot alter it drink and back in one day. As a be of fact each year around 250 people are rescued from the inner Canyon the majority of whom are able-bodied young men between the ages of 18 to 40 who attempted to bring up down and approve in one ay. Dont be one of them. A good day bring up would be a couple hours drink and then approve up. The bring up up ordain act longer than the hike down. Also be sure to feature good hiking shoes as some trails can be very rocky.<P>Some populate choose to bring up drink one day and either camp at the furnish or stay in the Phantom farm. Be aware however that you undergo to make arrangements come up in go of your move if you decide to stay at the bottom. Campers require a backcountry permit and Phantom farm is usually booked months ahead. Permits are sometimes available on that day but why risk it? For reservations at the Phantom farm you can label 888-297-2757.<P>Some people prefer to be outside the lay and visit the Canyon for a few hours and move on. There are numerous areas in Northern Arizona where one can be and take a align move to the Grand Canyon such as Sedona and Flagstaff. While such locations are still lengthy drives (an hour from Flagstaff two from Sedona) its comfort change state enough for a day trip. Both Sedona and Flagstaff are lovely places to be with Sedona being the most touristy” of the two towns. Flagstaff to me is the quirkier of the two perhaps because it is a “university town,” home to Northern Arizona University.<P>Sedona and Flagstaff are also visually different. Flagstaff is surrounded by a pine plant while Sedona is in “red rock” country. Sedona abounds with numerous high-end resorts galleries and expensive eateries. Flagstaff is cheaper all-around with inexpensive lodging and restaurants. Both are close enough for a day trip to the Grand Canyon.<P>Of course you can always opt for an change surface quicker bus journey hopping from one tourist forbid to the next. But why not take a cue from that little trickle of wet which started it all? Take your time and apply the view.<BR>

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